02:00 – 04:00 Douglas Park with Gerrit Jan de Rook

02.00 - Introduction
02.03 – What is your position at the moment / What means being a creator
02.05 – What were your major works for you? Show “Eden” in Whitechapel Gallery of xxx?.
02.07 – Signal magazine / Staakman
02.10 – What work seems relevant for other people?
02.11 - Destruction in his work
02.13 - Metzger an artist or social figure / his work / his connection to The Hague.
02.15 – Destruction taking place at Finnisage with Keith Winters.
02.16 – My Bataille – Show /
02.17 – Aleksander Brener & Barbara Schurz / Breners Malevich Intervention in Stedelijk Museum
02.20 – Destruction of catholic artefacts
02.21 – Malevich and his (non-) reception / how Sandberg received his paintings. Malevichs life.
02.24 – Schwitters, Mondriaan.
02.25 – Destruction as creative moment / right or wrong
02.29 – Different types of destruction / sabotage / experiment test
02.31 – Alex Hamilton. Ice Trumpets / Shows connected with destruction in Belgium and The Netherlands.
02.34 – Writing as surrogate for visual arts. How DPs work is coming in existence apart from writing.
02.36 – The end of the (printed) book
02.39 – Willem Flusser and his theories. How will people think in the future? Lettrism ?
02.44 – how to test relevance of work / art & or vs. convention / how to measure effect of non-verbal language.
02.46 – When do you re-think road you are on?
02.48 – compare drawings with writings. Deleuze and others. Talk about different artists.
02.54 – Where can DBs work be filed? Filing and categorizing of art.
02.57 – How do you want to be filed? Between natural habitat and preservation. 02.59 - Art and filtering. Can you get hold of this process? Can you decide what gets through and what stays in the filter?
03.02 – How does DPs mind work? Associations and what happens to them in his mind. Trying to find the right one or just letting it go.
03.05 - What outcome do you expect. What happens to words. / Choice of words through chance or decision.
03.08 – Importance of result of creative process / Intellectualism.
03.10 – Important or non-importance to make creative process visible / DP as impressionist?
03.13 – Why is the view into the artists studio interesting? Why 24hr-Interview? Progress / Movement / Change. What can be learned from exercise?
03:17 – Is the last word always the best, the most precise, important one? Elimination and non-elimination of words.
03:19 – Silence
03:21 – Words as they come to mind & non-verbal communication of Bruno the dog.
03.23 – Claude Debussy / body language
03.24 – Expectations for 24 hrs interview / dangers & risks of doing it.
03.27 – The huge portrait of DB on the wall. Why?
03.29 – Reciting own works in different languages / Translation / Archiving
03.32 – Copyright / It’s existence in nature and in law. Guy Debord & Spectacle
03.35 – Discussion about thinking and self regarding copyright
03.39 – Does DP copyright his own work / More stories about copyright / Things that can’t be copied.
03.41 – The universe / mythology
03.43 – Deconstruction. Better books / John Laytham
03.45 – Gerrit Jan and where he has been in England.